I just got off the phone with Jhon Longshaw, one of the most knowledgeable and powerful magicians I’ve ever known.
Jhon is an occult author, poet, artist, musician, and a heavily practicing Black Magician. He and I have performed some of the most intense and dangerous ritual workings together, and I have witnessed first hand his ability to do the impossible.
I recorded our conversation, which went well over the normal one hour time slot for my Interviews With A Magus series, and it will be coming out in just a few days.
Of all of the interviews that I’ve done so far, this one is in my opinion the one with the most depth. We discuss the difficulties in working towards Godhood in modern society, the intricacies of the kali-yuga, or the spiritual dark age of our time, and we hammer out why it is that some people seem to be able to pick up magick and use it and why some have a harder time – and how you can find out which type you are!
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Among the dozens of topics that we cover in this interview, Jhon and I also discuss a subject that I’ve been asked about several times in just the past week or two.
That subject is whether or not drugs, or any other mind-altering substance, should be used in ritual.
We both brought up interesting points with this topic, but as I’ve sat with it for a bit, I thought that I needed to address this a bit more directly.
Firstly, I want to put aside morality, ethics, and even legality. I’m not concerned here with whether or not drugs should be used by people. The fact of the matter is that they ARE used by people. A lot.
And this isn’t a new thing. In fact, NOT using substances to alter our states is a new thing. The use of mushrooms, DMT, peyote, ayahausca, datura, and other psychotropic substances in spiritual settings has occurred in every pagan culture since man first started trying to make conscious contact with the spiritual.
But, where does that leave our modern spiritual traveler?
Should you use mind-altering substances in ritual?
Now, it’s not my job to tell you what you should or shouldn’t do.
My job is to give you the best information on practical spirituality available, and then trust you to do what you will with that information.
What I will tell you is what I’ve found in my own experiences, and the data that I’ve collected in speaking with others who have had similar experiences.
I’ve tried and magickally tested the major drug categories in extreme, near-lethal doses. (For legal reasons, let me repeat that I do not condone or encourage this, and I’m not a medical doctor)
The greatest note that I have made concerning the use of mind-altering substances, within a spiritual context or not, is that as the effects of the substance peak, your conscious and willed control over your own states diminishes or sometimes disappears entirely.
Now, in a ritual of evocation, for example, you may feel like you’re spinning out of control as soon as the rapture state sets in. Your peripheral vision may start to close in, you may find yourself struggling to breathe normally, your heart will start racing, and your vision and hearing start doing some very strange things.
You then have two options: you can push the alteration of your states farther and deeper, pushing yourself into the Crossroads where you will meet the spirit face-to-face, or you can retreat, shake it off, make a sandwich, and get on with life.
Of course, if you choose to enhance the transfiguration, you’re going to have an amazing experience of a successful evocation. If you flee, then the evocation shatters and you’ll have to approach it again at another time.
Either way, though, the choice is yours. The control is yours.
Alternatively, if you eat 5 dry grams of psilocybin and sit in silent darkness, there is no choice other than confronting what you have summoned.
Your control is gone.
That being said, such a sacrifice of control is sometimes exactly what is called for.
In fact, it is this very sacrifice that is made in the highest states of Soul Travel and spiritual ecstasy. Of course, you don’t need drugs to get you there when you know how to trigger these states at will, but the model of giving up control to an automatic process is definitely present.
To address the issue head-on, though, I’ve developed a pretty strong rule of thumb that I apply in my own spiritual practice where the use of state-altering substances is concerned:
Using these substances in mystical experiences is fine, and can sometimes enhance that experience. Using these same substances in magickal experiences will almost always cause the Operation and the materialization of the end goal to fail.
So, what is the difference between a mystical experience and a magickal one?
A mystical experience is one in which you are not trying to effect the world outside of yourself, but are trying to consciously connect to something internally, to learn, to experience states of the self that are normally inaccessible.
A magickal experience, then, is the opposite: it is an experience that is directed primarily for the alteration of physical reality through nonphysical means.
So, in a mystical setting, these substances can act as “teachers” and definitely can open the doors of certain realizations. They can show you the path that you should walk. What is important to keep in mind, though, is that once they have shown you that path, that you shouldn’t need to hold your teacher’s hand while you walk it.
In other words, if you decide to use such substances in your mystical practices, you should be see them as tools to use to point you in the right direction, but not crutches that you’ll lean on constantly.
As far as mixing state-altering substances with magickal ritual, I personally have found that the loss of conscious control over my states and my focus negatively effects my ability to manifest exactly what I desire with reliable results. While I have certainly had some interesting experiences in the process of figuring this out, I learned that for my own practice, combining drugs and magick simply deteriorates my success rate.
As Living Gods, all of these things act as tools. It is always important, though, to be vigilant so that you are always clear that you are using the tool, rather than it using you!
I’ll talk to you again soon!
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